Mazatrol limitations

August 19, 2013, 1:17 pm

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My question is aimed at the people who are programming 5 axis Mazak mills, Integrex' etc.

I have programmed quite a few simple parts using Mazatrol for lathes, mills and Multi Task (Integrex). The parts are becoming more complicated and I seem to be finding the Mazatrol to be a little bit cumbersome compared to importing an existing model and working from that. Is this common amongst those of you who use mazatrol? Have you found that some of the parts just become too complicated to be readily programmed in Mazatrol? I also noticed at IMTS last fall that in the Mazak booth where they were showing off the latest and greatest.....they had used a cam package instead of Mazatrol......thoughts?:scratchchin:

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Mazak Camware

August 19, 2013, 2:06 pm

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Is this official Mazak Cam software worth having? Is it value for money or is there better out there?
Controls are M2 and M32.

Anybody have a hydraulic pump for a QT-10 Universal ???

August 21, 2013, 2:55 am

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I have a late 80's Mazak QT-10 Universal......... wondering if anyone might have a good hydraulic pump lying around for one ??? I have a quote to rebuild my unit for just under $2K, which might not be that bad, but considering the machine is a basket case and I need to send the control to Mitsubishi to have it rebuilt, the dollars are adding up quickly. Just trying to find a cheaper alternative.

On the plus side, I FINALLY got my VQC 20/50 B running. All I have to do is install a more permanent air line to it and it's ready to go. Now, I need to figure out how to run it.



Frank

Sqt200-msy t+ sub spindle tapping?

August 21, 2013, 5:30 am

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Hi all i have a mazak sqt200-msy with t plus control. I am trying to tap holes on sub spindle side with eia program.

The tool holder is a double z axis live tool, one side for main and one for sub. To use on sub side you have to program

the tool rotation oppisite (m204). The problem is i program

m204s500
(position for hole)
g84.2 z___f___m204
g80

the mill spindle stops before it starts the tap cycle then starts m203 and at bottom reverses to m204. This is oppisite of what i need it to do. Does anyone know how to make it do what i need to do here??

Has anyone seen the old Mazatrol training videos.

August 29, 2013, 6:58 am

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I found some VHS tapes, in an auction purchase, labeled Mazak. I have a set of three, maintenance, operations, and programming. I watched the programming video and it was very informative for beginners. I believe these would make for great entry level training. The videos I have cover VTC 16/20, but I would like to find some lathe oriented videos. If anyone has any they would like to sell or knows anyone with any tapes please let me know. Thanks for your help.

Jerry

P.S. My company has the mastertask training program and we are not happy with the training results.

MRJ Batteries

August 29, 2013, 10:05 am

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Hello All. Mazak recommends replacing MRJ batteries every year. We have been replacing them every 2 years. I was wondering how long everyone is getting out of their batteries. We have an 05 vcn 510 with the 640m nexus control, and an 08 qt200 with the matrix.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Roger.

Mazak EIA tapping problem

August 30, 2013, 7:29 am

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Trying to tap a 10-32 hole in a Mazak and Apparently Im too stupid...Here is my code

I keep getting alarm 909 invalid pitch for fixed tapping cycle. Can someone please tell me whats wrong with my code.

T5 M06 (DEFINE TOOL NAMES)
(MAX - Z2.)
(MIN - Z0.)
M08
G00 G17 G90 G54 X-.425 Y0.
G43 H5 Z2. T6
G95
M3 S320
G98 G84 Z0. R1. F10.
G80
M09
M05
G91 G28 Z0.
M01

"98" QT 10 ?'s

August 30, 2013, 5:44 pm

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New to the mazak world and have a few dumb ?'s :o
Where does this little u shaped pan go ? It Doesn't appear to ever been used .The machine has no parts catcher or chip conveyer





What should the chuck jaws be torqued at ?

thanks much :o
Steve

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Mazatrol - t plus - qtn 20 h-p

September 1, 2013, 4:43 am

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Dear Genius ..s,

I have a favour , I have a MAZATROL QTN - 20 H-P.
It showing alarm -- 322 Rapid Mode Imp. ( ORIGIN RETURN UNF ).
As soon as mc is switched ON - normal screen flash & then above alarm appear on screen botton left corner. All other screen go blank.
Operator panel back side PCB -- 24 & 5 VDC ok but no any LED blinking / ON on PCB.
On controller -- card no. Q 141 -- only one green LED is blinking -- second upper side LED is OFF.
Pl suggest -- what can I do.
I don't have any machine parameter.

Pl help.

Regards.

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Ajv 35/60

September 1, 2013, 7:13 am

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My son has done a deal on one of these with a M32 control,I had a quick look at it yesterday and it seems ok but would have preferred the same style of toolchange as the VQC we have.It has the system and parameter discs and a full set of manuals.It came out of an aerospace factory and appears to have been looked after although its just as it stopped production,covered in cuttings.
I was surprised to see a machine that size using linear guides.Was this a cost cutting exercise by Mazak or a way to get higher traverse rates?
Do the slides work ok as opposed to a boxway machine?
Anyone got anything good or bad to say about them?
It's a 3150 rpm or thereabouts spindle.

No tooling with it but I picked up 100 new and nearly new CAT50 TG100 collet chucks and sidelock holders last week for about $800

mazak 510 VTC tool sensor

September 3, 2013, 11:32 am

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We recently replaced the TS27R Renishaw tools setting probe and we would like to know if there is anything to do to calibrate it? The machine is running fine but we don't know if we need to do anything else after the unit was replaced.

Thank you

QT8 T2 Chuck not opening

September 4, 2013, 12:58 pm

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I just moved my machine 420 miles. Everything fired up perfectly except the chuck will not open. The hydraulics are on with proper pressures and the turret indexs like it should.

Where do I look? I really need to get it back up and running.

Thanks
Michael

Mazatrol T4 screen problem

September 5, 2013, 2:40 am

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Hey guys

So im new to the cnc machine world, and have just bought an old Mazak qs20 for a good price.
Problem is as soon as I start the T4 controller it doesn't seem to boot up, just has a blank screen with a lot of vertical lines on it.
I spent the day yesterday cleaning all the cards, both in the control panel and in the main cabinet at the back of the machine in case some dust had upset it while in transit, checked foe the obvious loose or damaged wires but found nothing.

Any help would be much appreciated

Mazatrol errors

September 15, 2013, 10:14 pm

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I have a mazak qs20 with a mazatrol t4 that has some errors and im not sure how to clear them

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T2 programming woes

September 16, 2013, 8:34 am

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I recently had to reinitialize my T2 controller, and after a mountain of headaches, I am finally cutting chips. The issue I'm having with it all is my grooving tool. Whenever I try to use it it wants to cut under center and back up to zero. If I use my OD turning tool it's fine. If I even try to use my grooving tool to face it does the same, so I know I have something jacked up. Could anyone use their electrical hammer and hit me in the head to enlighten me on what I'm doing? It's set up as an OD grooving tool, and it is set correctly as far as the x axis goes( goes to zero correctly). I'm open to ugly comments as long as I can get this running......

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Repairing a 4th axis

September 23, 2013, 8:00 am

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Mine's been broken for a while and I think the service guy said the encoder was bad. He disabled the 4th (though it still shows on the position page- i don't have to home it out though) and i've been running that way ever since. As I recall, it would move just fine until you hit this one particular spot and the machine would throw a red overload alarm that I'd have to power cycle the mill to clear.

Im thinking about trying to fix this myself to save money. Just wondering what I'm getting into.

Anyone torn into one of these before? It's a Tsudakoma unit on my M32 V10 vertical mill.

Value of QT 35 with T2

September 23, 2013, 11:45 am

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Have the opportunity to pick up one that is running condition. Known problems are that it needs new input pulley flange ( noisy when changing directions), and it needs a new tail stock body motor (quill works, body unclamps but motor does not turn to move chain). They do not use tail so the didnt fix it. Only one woth a price I saw online was ebay with BIN price of 29,999, which to me is high but what is yalls opinion?

QT15 Stroke Limit

September 24, 2013, 8:52 am

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Hello all,

Now with the machine finally up and running, I got a job where I have to turn some 8.250 diameter stock. However, when I try to go out to that diameter, and I get to around 6.5 inches diameter readout on the control with my turning tool loaded and set correctly, It gives me a stroke limit alarm? Can this be bypassed in some way? In the manual it says this is set by parameter B1, but what can I change there if anything? I dont want to mess anything up! The max turning diameter for the machine was listed right at 10 inches if I remember correctly, So I am sure I can somehow cut that diameter... What do I need to do to cut these parts?

Thanks for any help!

Nick

Access to "Running Control" data

September 25, 2013, 10:54 am

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Regarding Matrix controls...Aside from the graphical representation under the Diagnosis menu, is there a way to extract the actual data (times) used for creating the running control graphics?

(fwiw, I'm trying to extract machine "up time" from the control for a given period of time)

Bar feed interface SQT15M T plus

September 25, 2013, 2:13 pm

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Now I've done it. Purchased a 97 SQT 15M with a T+ control and need to look into a barfeed interface to get this puppy smoking.

The machine has been in a local shop since new that I do business with and was traded in with Mazak on a new machine purchase. Currently the machine is at the local Mazak shop getting the live tooling drive gear replaced in the turret and will be held there till our new building is ready some time around 1st of November.

My thought is that if I have to purchase an interface from Mazak for ~5K, then they might as well install it while its there.

So my question is there a generic interface or it specific to the feeder being used, or do I need to wait till a specfic bar feeder is to be installed? Any guidance is appreciated.