mazatrol tplus: easiest way to upload/download programs?

February 14, 2013, 4:46 pm

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We recently purchased a 1994 Mazak SQT 15M with a mazatrol T+ controller.
I am looking for the simplest way to upload and download programs.
Can anyone help me with this?
I spoke with Mazak applications and man in technical help told me that simple DNC software is adequate for this but as I read some of the older threads in this site... I am now a little confused.
Will simple DNC software do the job? and if so, can anyone recommend a particular software that is proven to work for this controller?
thanks,
mike

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Tool eye woes

February 15, 2013, 11:34 am

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Hello again all

recently discovered that our tool eye is doing funny things, it seems that when you touch off in either X or Z both numbers on the tool set page change, I can manually set the tools and all is well, but no matter what side of the tool probe you pick-up on both offsets change. does anybody have any ideas what could cause this problem? I do know that the tool eye was changed in 1997 but do not know if it has been changed since then.:confused:


thanks for any input

Bob

Mazatrol T32-2 Error 260: Slideway Lubrication Alarm

February 17, 2013, 9:44 pm

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Hi!

I have a Mazatrol T32-2 controller displaying error 260 "Slideway Lubrication Alarm" the alarm reference book does not give an action to correct this issue.

Power the machine down and restart it the code will reset for 30 minutes or so but it does come back, and, I have to rehome the tool each time.

Does anyone have a suggested course of action for me?

By the way.. Hello.. This is my first post. I found out about this forum about a week ago when my machine had a different problem. While google searching the answer after the book failed to provide enough clarity I stumbled across the solution I needed from a discussion thread here. I registered and hope to some day be a contributing member, though, it seems for now I am more likely to be found on the receiving end of your knowledge base.

Anyways, Thank you in advance for any advice or guidance. I will continue to search for answers on my end as well and I look forward to being a part of this forum!

-David

Mazak QT15 Turret Problem

February 18, 2013, 7:11 pm

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WE have a early 90's vintage QT15 that has been having a intermitant turret problem, it goes to index and it un clamps and just sits there, you can bang it with a rubber mallet and it will index usually. It happens in a program as well as manually indexing. If you let it sit long enough it will blow one of two alarms, one is turret clamp malfunction and the other is something about too much time for turret to index. I'm kinda thinking its a prox. switch or something, guess I need to open up the back of the turret housing. Have the turret off now as there was more coolant coming out from behind it than onto the cutting tools, this problem is obvious the brass gadget and seals are toast. The turret rotation problem isn't so obvious, anyone know where the hyd. selenoid valve that activates the turret motor is? maybe that's sticking, I sure hope it's not the turret rotating motor. Any and all ideas and comments are welcomed, Thank you Jon P.

Mazatrol Slant 50N T32-2: Error 121 overtravel and 023 Illegal memory 1

February 21, 2013, 12:34 am

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Hi guys!

Ok.. So.. I came into work today and the Mazak was down (again) with two errors.

Error 121 Overtravel and 023 Illegal memory 1.

The alarm book did not provide the solution I needed, however, the solution was found and I want to share it incase anyone else might find themselves in such a position.

Basically... an operator over extended the tool (pictured below)

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Now.. this was not going to reset until the tool arm was above the pipe. So now we are in an interesting position. The reset will not clear until the tool is moved but I can't move the tool until the reset is clear!

Ok.. So here is what I did...

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I did a full power down on the machine, waited a couple minutes for all the capacitors to drain and hamsters to fall asleep and then powered back up on the main disconnect.

Next I pressed down and held the reset button and the button right below it.

Now I hit the on button located on the monitor.

Once the screen came online I released my finger from the reset button and continued to hold it on the middle button. I pressed the jog button (10x speed) and flipped the toggle switch to X axis and began spinning the control wheel clockwise moving the tool up by hand.

Once the tool was above the pipe, I was able to take my finger off of the middle button, press the reset button and everything cleared out.

While this may be an every day common sense thing for 99% of you all... for someone like me with little/no experience... I had no idea about this before today and it is definately NOT in the chapter of the Mazak book that I read. If you are here because you google searched these error messages on your display screen... This threads for you! :cheers:

Have a great day!

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My, new to me, QT-15!

February 23, 2013, 1:27 am

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I posted in the recent thread about the super clean QT-15 on eBay and said that I purchased it. Well it was delivered today. It is in fantastic condition for sure. The inside is just as good as the outside. It looks like it has hardly been used. Here are a couple pictures of getting it set in place. I'm sure I'll have some questions for the experts on here as soon as I get her powered up! Thanks to Greg, cnctoolcat, for all the help so far!

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Need parameters for a Mazak QT 25L

February 25, 2013, 7:40 am

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My Mazak QT 25L crashed and do not have the books. Can anyone help me out? Thanks!

How to spin spindle in reverse in a mazatrol program.

February 25, 2013, 10:22 am

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Hello

I am new to mazatrol and mazak. Lots of g code expierence. So I am tapping holes and getting chip wrap. Typical response for me would be S3000 M4. But the programs are all written in mazak language. Which I am learning a little. please help:rolleyes5::rolleyes5:

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converting mazatrol program to gcode.

February 26, 2013, 6:26 am

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Is there a way to convert a mazatrol program to gcode. older control from 99
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Mazak 510 Mill corner rounding

February 26, 2013, 12:49 pm

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I have a guy having trouble with his Mazak 510 cutting off the corners in a Mastercam surface toolpath. Is there a setting in the parameters to adjust this so it stops? The toolpath and program look good so i am thinking it has to be a setting in the parameters of the machine. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Reading mazatrol probe calibration data from EIA program

February 27, 2013, 12:07 am

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Integrex i400 with Matrix control.

Is it possible to read the parameters from mazatrol probe calibration from an EIA macro program? The parameters I'm looking for is L1-L4 and L88-L99.
I have to write some custom probing routines and want to use the same calibration data if possible.

mazak EIA file cannot read in text editor ??

February 27, 2013, 6:08 am

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i got a Mazak VMC with M32 control. i created a EIA program and saved to computer network. file and it had no file extension like name.eia, name.iso, name.nc
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ok i right click and use windows open and it asks what to open with and i select notepad. it is not a normal text file, mostly a bunch of zeros but the gcodes are in the center
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is a Mazak EIA file in a special file format ?? what program can read and write Mazak EIA files as text ??
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writing a EIA program in windows notepad is easier than at the control. i am thinking of writing a simple sub program as a EIA program which i know can be called up in a mazatrol program.
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i would prefer free software. thank you for any help

1991 H400N 370 spindle over heat alarm M32 controller

February 28, 2013, 4:55 pm

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Mhh.. I thought I already posted this a couple of days ago. I cannot find it anymore...

Upon repositioning and adjusting of the 6 pallet changer and after everything was ready to go, I all in a sudden received a 370 spindle over heat error.

The spindle wasn't even running for 2 weeks.

Register parameters that have to do with spindle thermal displacement are all in the not even close to the 2100-2009 that I checked and adjusted for the pallet changer and rotary table options.

Jumping the sensor gives me a "371 cannot start, spindle not warm" error.

Non of my alarm lists give me 370 nor 371 to trouble shoot.

I measured the resistance of the sensor and it is 52.8 K.

I built jumpers with different resistance values in case the PLC is using a resistance value from the spindle sensor.
And then I connected a thermocouple to it and produced from 0 V to 10 mV going up slowly in .1 mV ranges.

The PLC wouldn't recognize any of these inputs.

I could order a spindle temp sensor and see if it clears it, but it is hard to believe that all in a sudden the sensor goes bad without the machine even running.

Any ideas or inputs are appreciated.


Sincerely

Oliver Hanisch

QT200. No Air

March 1, 2013, 4:58 am

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2008 qt200 with the matrix control. I found the parameter to turn the alarm off. Need to be able to run it for a day or so without air. I assume the air is only for the tool eye. :scratchchin:
Anyone ever done this?

Mazak QT10 T2 "hidden parameters" question

March 1, 2013, 8:40 am

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Hello to everyone,
This is my 1st post but I have been an avid reader of Practical Machinist for a while now and I have enjoyed the many forums especially any and all Mazak CNC lathe information I just finished reading a post about the lost parameters on a 1986 QT10 T3 and I have a question about the "hidden parameters" in the machine. I also own a 1986 QT10N but I have the T2 control no ATC just a standard 2 axis lathe. I had to change my backup batteries and reinitialize my control using the Mazak 0989-002 bulletin. I followed the procedure until I got to the hidden parameter pages and I came across 3 pages that I didn't have parameters for. One page is the "D" parameters and the next two pages are "XC and ZC" and on the same line is an "F and "M" my numbers also start at #11 and end at #88.I realize the comment was made that the QT10 didn't have hidden parameters but my question is do you just "zero" out the XC, ZC and D parameters? Or do you put some numerical value in each parameter and if so does anybody have a copy of these parameters . I reinstalled all of the factory parameters that came with the machine but now when I power the machine up I get an X and Z axis servo lag excess alarm.I'm really hesitant about continually starting the machine because of the "thump" the X and Z ballscrews make when I turn on the machine. So I geuss my next question would be does the hidden parameters have any thing to do with the alarm? If not is there a certain parameter that I can check or is there a certain procedure to check my X and Z axis servo drive? It has the TRA 8AL servo drive. Also I can turn the Z axis ball screw by hand so nothing seems to be in a bind.I also thought I might have a voltage issue after reading the thread about wiring 3 phase power backward but my FR SE spindle drive shows a green light on the phase sequence and ready spots on the front cover. I have the machine hooked up to a 50hp Generac phase converter and the voltage reading at the machine on/off breaker is 246,241and 241. I also have my transformer set at 240 volts. I find it hard to believe that this all started with a low battery alarm! I am about at my wits end I have contacted Mazak and Mitsubishi and neither of them know what to do, other than continually remind me my machine is almost 30 yrs old. Mazak has searched for X and Z parameters for my machine but have not found anything and when I contact Mitsubishi they continue to say it's a Mazak problem. As a matter of fact Mazak suggested that I check out the "chat Boards" and see if any one else has had this problem. I've been all over the internet and the above mentioned post is the only one that has ever mentioned anything about the hidden parameters on a Qt10N with a T3 control and especially starting at #11 thru #88. I've attached 3 pictures , two of them show the XC and ZC parameter pages and one page is my latest diagnostic page. The NMI Parity alarm on the XC ZC pages has been taken care of ,this was the pictures that I sent to Mazak right after I scrambled the control for the 6th time.I asked them if this was my missing X and Z parameter pages. I would really appreciate it if anybody could provide any information on this problem.
Thanks for your time
Brandon

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"New" (to me) Mazak 10N

March 1, 2013, 3:25 pm

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So...I found a Mazak 10N on my trailer and its now parked at the Shop. :D

Short day trip over to Sterling Heights to pick up this little gem today. Seller estimated at 9k lbs, everything I could read online hinted at that same number. The riggers did a great job with it (they were already onsite to move the rest of the shop, save the 10N, to another building...Winfield's Machine Services if you ever need some local guys) However they had it wayy out on the very tips of the forks just getting underneath it and managed to tilt it back clean of the ground...both guys were like, no way, not 9k....

Fast forward, I get checking out the detailed manuals and there's an overhead crane drawing with the statement, the machine weighs 3.1 tons....didn't feel like 9k on the back end while driving my trusty Custom Deluxe...which is almost as old as the machine LOL! Perhaps the 9k is shipping weight with chip conveyor, coolant tank, shipping skid....etc? Not sure what they were doing in 1987 :)

A little miscommunication between seller and myself, he chopped off the input power cable before I could notate (photograph) the machine parameter pages. His thoughts are all is ok for about a week's time, but I'm working on getting the control powered up with an extension cord to do same just at my shop right quick....trying to sort out the transformer taps currently.

Will try to read as much as I can as to not be a pest but you should probably prepare for an onslaught of questions! :)






Riggers recommended this technique for chaining it down and I followed their advice. Not sure if I just damaged the threads on the levelers tho...time will tell. There wasn't much else to go with..



One immediate question is: what do I do with the chip conveyor? 1) it won't fit in my shop...no way no how... and 2) the original OEM worm gear reducer is shot and gone. Seller had a Boston Gear reducer and a 3ph motor he intended to adapt but those are just loose pieces.

Sell on ebay? Scrap??? Looking for advice. I was thinking I would need to fab up a chip "screen" to take its place...had to make up one for my Fadal so I go that stainless punched sheet (3/16" punch IIRC) I got from McMaster and just folded up my own part.

Pretty happy with the package, full complement of manuals. All pockets on the chain save 1 has a holder. I guess I got 3 stick tool holders by virtue of the owner chopping power, and I got to see it run some parts the weekend before and ask a bunch of questions. Decent pile of chuck jaws. He even helped by dumping 95% of the nasties out of the coolant tank...I think I hit the timing just right...the seller had entertained trading/selling to a local used machine dealer but apparently the dealer porked him on another deal with loss of a bunch of accessories so he was looking to sell it to anyone else if he could get the same coin. The C-axis is advertised as NOK but I've had a few offline conversations about what the issue is..Time will tell if its a gem in need of a bit of polish... :D

error 468 maintenance check warning

March 3, 2013, 10:59 pm

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Anyone know how to clear the error 468, "maintenance check warning" on a mazatrol m-plus?

I've been thumbing through the manuals and haven't found anything.

Low Hour Mazak VQC 20/50B - need info on tool changer

March 5, 2013, 12:02 pm

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I have a customer that has an older Mazak VQC 20/50B in a lab that gets occasional use machining exotic metals. We recently did an 840D retrofit on a 5-Axis painting robot for him and his crew likes the Siemens control and is asking about upgrading his Mazatrol to a Siemens control.

I have sized new motors / drives for the X, Y and Z along with the 4th axis and a new drive for the spindle based on existing motors and drives.

I have a question about the tool changer - the customer isn't really sure about the workings of this part of the machine and apart from driving 3 hours up and back, this is the only part of the machine that I need to get clarified to finish my estimate.

Can anyone familiar with this machine describe how the tool changer works? Is this a pneumatically controlled tool changer? Does it have any servo axes associated with it?

Thanks in advance for any clarity on this part of the machine.


Also - all of the existing drives / controls are in good serviceable condition. Is there a market for these parts?

Mazak VTC300 renishaw probe

March 6, 2013, 3:17 pm

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I recently purchased a machine and I do not know how to touch off on the side/top of a part to set my WPC. Can anyone help?

Old t1 control

March 6, 2013, 6:32 pm

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I have an M5 lathe with a T1 control. I have the original parameters for the machine but could use a copy of the parameter document that that lists what all the parameters are. I only got 5 pages of the document with the machine. If anybody has one I'd really appreciate it.

Thanks.